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reid. >> right, a democrat by the name of harry reid, who has opposed some of the very kind of things that president obama is calling for a vote on this time. so, yeah, i think the president should nudge people in his own party to do the things that he wants them to do. we haven't seen him do it on gun control, certainly didn't see him do it on immigration and never did it on senate budge proposal. >> megyn: she calls it an empty gesture untied to political reality. if you watched that moment, he seemed to be implying that there were lawmakers there and one would assume it was lawmakers on the opposite aisle from the president who are going to stop gabby giffords and other victims of gun violence from getting a vote on this legislation. that's not the reality right now in the u.s. congress. >> you're right and look, anytime the president speaks in a venue like this, he's got several audiences and clearly what he's saying is not for the members of congress in front of him. as you point out. harry reid could have a vote anytime he wants to and i think the president trying to build a pub
reid. >> right, a democrat by the name of harry reid, who has opposed some of the very kind of things that president obama is calling for a vote on this time. so, yeah, i think the president should nudge people in his own party to do the things that he wants them to do. we haven't seen him do it on gun control, certainly didn't see him do it on immigration and never did it on senate budge proposal. >> megyn: she calls it an empty gesture untied to political reality. if you watched...
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and harry reid's senate. but the way things used to work, you used to pass things in the house, and then the senate would pass things. and then when harold and i at least were in washington in the '90s, then you go to conference committee, and they battle it out. that doesn't happen if harry reid doesn't pass things in the senate. he is the president's pocket veto. >> the step you're missing in that is -- and kevin mccarthy's interview proves that denial is not simply a river in egypt -- there's no conference committee. >> can i -- hold on. hold on. >> that's a good one. that was so fancy. >> is not just a river in egypt. >> that's what he does now. >> that's something brad pitt would say in one of those chanel ads. >> let's call brad. >> standing against the wall wearing nothing. >> he's wearing the sweater. >> go like this. >> you can't get away with saying things like that on this show. >> i want to hear his vision. >> why? more "morning joe." >> i know you're way above the cliche. i'm sorry. >> stupid cli
and harry reid's senate. but the way things used to work, you used to pass things in the house, and then the senate would pass things. and then when harold and i at least were in washington in the '90s, then you go to conference committee, and they battle it out. that doesn't happen if harry reid doesn't pass things in the senate. he is the president's pocket veto. >> the step you're missing in that is -- and kevin mccarthy's interview proves that denial is not simply a river in egypt --...
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we're talking about whether or not senate majority leader harry reid is willing to put those democrats at risk and also then put at risk control of the senate because republicans have fewer people who were running, who will be running in 14 and fewer people who are at risk. though again, the dynamic is very difficult for the democrats and here's a vote that would expose them to great political costs. jon: let's take, let's take another listen at one of the things the president said last night. >> and i know you want these job-creating projects in your district. i've seen all those ribbon cuttings. jon: according to "politico" what he meant was, republicans give me flak for proposing stimulus programs but they all show up to take the credit. talk about hypocritical. translation, the president made this remark as he renewed his push for more government spending on infrastructure projects, modernizing the public schools and building high-speed rail and internet. the question, juan, is do we have the money to do all that stuff? >> well, you know, as the white house yesterday and they were
we're talking about whether or not senate majority leader harry reid is willing to put those democrats at risk and also then put at risk control of the senate because republicans have fewer people who were running, who will be running in 14 and fewer people who are at risk. though again, the dynamic is very difficult for the democrats and here's a vote that would expose them to great political costs. jon: let's take, let's take another listen at one of the things the president said last night....
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i think that there are several democrats that thought he would not be good, and so harry reid did what he's supposed to do. he interceded in behalf of the democrats who opposed him. well, they had a 60-vote margin. that's fine. they got 61 votes. dirk kempthorne was one that there was objection to. he was up for -- most of you remember him, a former senator from utah. he was up for the secretary of interior, and there are some people objecting to him. and of course that was back during the bush administration. he was nominated and he went ahead and he was confirmed. it was a 60-vote margin. there's nothing unusual about this. getting back to steven johnson, this is even more analogous to what we have what now, because this is a republican president, a democrat majority, and it was a democrat -- in the senate for confirmation. and we wanted to get -- get this confirmation of this -- of steven johnson to be through to be e.p.a. administrator and to do that we had to have a 60-vote margin. but steven johnson was a democrat, so here we had the republicans wanting steven johnson -- the demo
i think that there are several democrats that thought he would not be good, and so harry reid did what he's supposed to do. he interceded in behalf of the democrats who opposed him. well, they had a 60-vote margin. that's fine. they got 61 votes. dirk kempthorne was one that there was objection to. he was up for -- most of you remember him, a former senator from utah. he was up for the secretary of interior, and there are some people objecting to him. and of course that was back during the bush...
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you see harry reid, eric cantor there. and members of congress. these are coveted seats. just saying before the president was introduced here, there has been all this advanced notice that the president will be sort of keeping with his confident, even arguably aggressive tone that he has taken since his reelection. the quote that stood out for me from politico this week, it was assigned to a person close to the drafting of the speech. >> right. >> said the president's approach to the republican party in this speech would be borrowed from the 2500-year-old chinese book philosophy "the art of war." and the quote was "build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across." . >> i like the quote. and i think that would be probably a good strategy for the president. i mean, i would hope that we don't see a lot of partisan bickering, but i hope he is aggressive in terms of the proposals that he is going to lay out. this being his last term, most people say 18 months and then you start looking lame duck. so very important speech as to what his presidency and his legacy is going t
you see harry reid, eric cantor there. and members of congress. these are coveted seats. just saying before the president was introduced here, there has been all this advanced notice that the president will be sort of keeping with his confident, even arguably aggressive tone that he has taken since his reelection. the quote that stood out for me from politico this week, it was assigned to a person close to the drafting of the speech. >> right. >> said the president's approach to the...